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Kdaj
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: @Phase Reply with quote

Ok so I got my really sweet four set bonus and phat lewtz from BT/MH
But
My dps is still bad.
I just trained a wind serpent (2 lvls to go)
And I've been scouring the EJ forumns for any dps clues.
So far I've come to the conclusion that:
My rings suck (working on mat for a hard Khorium band and badges for angelista's revenge)
My trinks suck (4k from ashtongue trink)
And my weapons are "eh"
What should I do?!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be willing to advice from any other Vicarious hunter knows Surv too >.>
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda hard to diagnose a problem without a WWS report, or some more information (shot rotation etc).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok here ya go:

http://wowwebstats.com/f4xtnfigdhai1?s=111527-141367
That's our first Brut kill (didn't have my 4 set then)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Kdaj
That's my Armory link

I've been experimenting with 3 different shot rotation macros (mostly due to me being terribad at hand weaving..)

#1:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/click [target=pettarget,exists] MultiBarBottomLeftButton12
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

/castsequence reset=4 Kill Command, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot, !Auto Shot

#2:
/castsequence reset=3.00 !Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

#3:
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 !Auto Shot, !Steady Shot, !Multi-Shot, !Auto Shot, !Steady Shot, !Auto Shot, !Steady Shot, !Arcane Shot, !Auto Shot, !Steady Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing i'l say off the bat is to use the first rotation you listed
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have, but I keep getting tells from ppl saying, "Use a 1:1.5 rotation" or "Integrate multi and arcane into your rotation"
It's confusing >.<
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kdaj wrote:
I have, but I keep getting tells from ppl saying, "Use a 1:1.5 rotation" or "Integrate multi and arcane into your rotation"
It's confusing >.<


Who are these people? If you have 4pc t6 it's retarded to even consider arcane. Multi-shot isnt much better than steady at this point either but its mana inefficient so screw it. Don't forget i've hit 2175 dps pre-dst and 2.3k post dst with just spamming that one button for dps. This was before thoridal btw

EDIT: also add /cast lightning breath at the end of your macro if you have a WS and turn the LB auto-cast off.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also just checked your spec...imho 7/20/34> 28/33 QS is nice as well as FF. Also try to get a bristleblitz or s4 bow!..then again it looks like you are trying to weave arcane/multi with that spec o.O i really would advise against that with 4pc
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have a wind serpent.
But I didn't add that part in to my macro.
And also a Hunter named Voltzx told me I couldn't be an effective Survival Hunter if I didn't have a dst.
Thoughts on this?
Cuz I think he's full of shit.
He's also a terribad Surv hunter who send my hate tell cuz of my t6 -.-
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't listen to bad survival hunters if you know they're bad...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't.
But I do envy him though cuz of his sweet dst.
I'll have my own hopefully before Mu'ru.
Or atleast madness.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is going to kill me by saying this but Phase is probably the most knowledgeable hunter i know. You made a good choice to ask him, or any of our hunters, because they all are more than welcome to help peopl ewhen needed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm I didn't notice the spec comment Phase.
I thought about doing a 5/23/33 spec, but I wasn't sure if that'd be a wise choice.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kdaj wrote:
Hmm I didn't notice the spec comment Phase.
I thought about doing a 5/23/33 spec, but I wasn't sure if that'd be a wise choice.


7/20/34 would be better...2 points in focus fire=2% more dmg straight up, as well as extra KC crits
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kdaj wrote:
Well I have a wind serpent.
But I didn't add that part in to my macro.
And also a Hunter named Voltzx told me I couldn't be an effective Survival Hunter if I didn't have a dst.
Thoughts on this?
Cuz I think he's full of shit.
He's also a terribad Surv hunter who send my hate tell cuz of my t6 -.-


i got 2175 without a dst as vival..so its very possible, however you should prolly do what i did and try to get a gruuls going on a weekly basis with pugs with that item being a default rule....

Edit: what was your group comp for that kill btw? it seems you lacked a shammy giving agi/bloodlust, that alone would prolly give you 100+ more dps.

You were also soaking and got burnt, that also lowered it a bit it seems


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